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Was suspected shooters mother a prepper?

By Tom Martin
Founder/American Preppers Network

As members of the American Preppers Network community pour their hearts out in support and prayers for the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School victims, one can only wonder what would cause someone to commit such a heinous crime.  I personally find this tragic incident deeply saddening as I shed my own tears thinking about those wonderful lives that are now lost.  So many young children.  Words cannot describe what those family members are going through.  America’s children are our nations most valuable resource.  So when even one is lost we must all take notice.

If there is one single most important thing that a Prepper should prepare for, it is the safety of our children.

Who would commit such an evil crime?  And why?  It’s hard to say what goes on in peoples minds, especially today in the violent world that we all live in. Even recently in China a man wielding a knife attacked 22 children at a school.  What has come of society where we now live in a world where school violence is becoming more prevalent?  We must all prepare for the safety of our children and their schools.

Who is to blame?  As with any tragic story of this sort, first come the reports of the attack, followed by prayers for the victims, followed by background information on the attacker, and then comes the blame game.  Who was the attacker and why did he do this?  What weapon did he use?  Guns?  What kinds of guns?  Where did he get those guns?  Who taught him to shoot?  Blame will often be thrust upon the parents, and then maybe bullies at school who may have contributed to who this attacker became.  Maybe blame will be thrust upon his friends, or the community for not treating him right as he grew up.  What about violent video games, movies and TV shows? Society and people around the attacker will often catch the blame.  But how often is blame fully put on the murderous evil attackers themselves?

Nancy Lanza

Nancy Lanza

It is being reported in some stories that Nancy Lanza was a Prepper.  According to Mail Online:

“Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’.  She added: ‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns.  She had them for defense.

‘She was stockpiling food.  She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire.  She was skilled with guns.  We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’”

Does being a Prepper have anything to do with being a murderer?  Absolutely Not!  Not anymore than being a teacher, but being a teacher does not stop people from killing either.

Teachers are not murderers and neither are Preppers.  That does not however, mean that you won’t find evil in ANY segment of society.  The first media reports had us believing that Nancy was a teacher at the school, but in fact she was not, she also was NOT the one who killed these innocent children.  The attacker was the shooter, an attacker who does not even deserve name recognition.  The attacker most certainly WAS NOT a Prepper.  Preppers seek to prepare, save, and defend life.  So why the blame game?  If we are to blame anything, then why doesn’t anyone ever blame the media reports that sensationalize these murderous shooters by calling them names like the “Trench Coat Mafia” who “Spray” bullets with their “Arsenal” of weapons.  Could this sensationalism, key words, naming and posting the image of the attackers likeness be the cause of some of these attackers one-upmanship?  When a psychopath flies off the handle, who do we blame for his desire to make a larger spectacle than those who preceded him?  If we are to blame anyone other than the attacker himself, then maybe the media, Hollywood, the music industry, and video game industry should share in some of the blame.

The fact is the attacker is the one to blame.  He himself was the sole cause of this mayhem.

Victoria Soto

Victoria Soto

In the last moments of her life, Victoria Soto** demonstrated the qualities and principles of a true Prepper and is a Hero and example to us all.  This wonderful young woman sacrificed her life for the lives of her students.  Just as any Prepper would do for their own born flesh and blood children, she hid her students from harms way in a closet protecting them from the shooter as she threw her own body in the path of the bullets shielding the children from what would have been certain death.  Here was a teacher who loved her students like a mother would love her own child.

Whether they are defending themselves or especially when they defend the lives of those that they love the most, a Prepper’s primary goal is to protect and prolong life.

Remember the victims and the children of Sandy Hook elementary.  Remember Victoria Soto.  Never forget.  Protect your children.

Be Prepared.

 

**Editorial Note: This statement is not intended to imply or state that Victoria Soto was ever a member of The APN or that she ever considered herself a Prepper.  It is stating that the qualities and actions she displayed are the same qualities that Preppers strive for.



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  1. Was she a Prepper? If she was, she was a MURDERED Prepper. Please remember that. I’m more afraid that her son is no different all of our children. That would mean we all share a blindspot of foresight. Funny, but we do.

  2. Ray Ake says:

    as we all know,,the liberal press will go after anyone who isn’t like them !!! you are just as bad as any killer out there,,they don’t care what you have done in your life,,in fact if you go to church you are the worst of the lot..if you think for yourself,,own gun’s,,prep for safety,,dont have to depend on the government,,take care of your own,,pay your bill’s,,THEN you are not there kind of AMERICAN..but WE know better,,they don’t !!!

  3. Jim McClarin says:

    OK, maybe the 20-year-old kid was whacko and evil, but maybe not.  There is said to be a disturbing and ominous connection between the father of this young man and the father of the  theater shooter in Aurora Colorado:  Both were allegedly set to testify in the Libor Scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal).  If factual we must assume that many VERY BIG financial players could be profoundly affected by just what these testifiers divulge.  Could their sons have been used as drugged pawns by   hirelings of these major players to committ the most horrifying acts imaginable as a warning to the father to give favorable testimony?

    A little-known drug in this country but one that’s used with devastating effect in Colombia, scopolamine, an extract from a native tree, has the ability to render the victim on whom it is used into a compliant zombie, willing to follow any order.  Imagine using it on an already-borderline young man and telling him to go to a certain location and begin killing innocent people, then turn the gun on himself.

    I certainly not saying that this is what happened, only that it could have happened, especially if the Libor scandal connection survives due scrutiny.  Here’s a video investigation of the drug and its uses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ToQ8PWYnu04

  4. comingstorm says:

    In the public’s eye preppers are mentally unbalanced to begin with.
    With this idiots mother being a prepper she will be and is beginning to be vilified as one of the causes of this tragedy. That dumbass show Doomsday Preppers doesn’t improve the image a responsible, self-reliant prepper one iota either.

  5. paradigmshift says:

    I, for one, would like to hear from his doctor. I am absolutely sure that he was on one or more of the following medications: Zoloft, Paxel, Ritalin, Prozac, or any of the other numerous “anti-depression medications!!”

  6. Ive been gone most of the day so im not up to speed on all of the story but does stating she is a prepper really make us look bad. It simply states that she was a prepper. she didn’t murder those kids, her son did :( I dont think that is ever something you can prepare for :(

  7. Karen says:

    I recently saw a movie where this boy used a compound bow he took apart and brought to school in his book bag. I really do think if he had it in is crazy brain to do this, he would have used something else besides guns if they weren’t available. This same thing happened a couple of years ago in an
    Amish community. A non-Amish man went to an Amish school and shot a bunch of kids because his daughter had died. There is just too much stress in the world. I don’t think it had to do with anyone being a prepper. If he wanted those guns, he would have found a way to get them even if they were locked up!

  8. P J Maddox says:

    When you live in a complex society with a large government, anything and everything is “Political”. Any time there is a news making event, good or bad. It provides a political opportunity. Everyone/group jumps on the bandwagon to tie the event one way or another to promote their own agenda.

    It is NEVER with regard to the actual responsibility for the success, failure, awful act or accomplishment. If beneficial, they attach it to their belief system and to their credit. If a failure, or dire event, it is time to blame and condemn any things orideas that can be remotely associated with the problem or catastrophe. Anyone who thinks or behaves differently, can be set apart and attacked as blameworthy. First it is the “things” they disapprove of: Sex, Drugs & Rock-n-roll; Drinking & Dancing. Then, the other people they disapprove of: Atheists or any other Religion, hunters, nudists, homosexuals, and on and on.

    The large mass, of people, especially in our country, spend too much time seeing the failures in society and want to escape blame. Religious or not, they still want an absolute “Savior”. So they will not have to shoulder the blame for society’s ills, or even their own personal actions. They want to blame anyone or anything. They also resist “real” action, because again, they do not want to take responsibility for the failure in the trial and error that in needed for real achievement.

    The horrible TRUTH is: The most significant group that is demonized, are those who do take responsibility for their own actions, and work to find solutions instead of make excuses. Those folks do everything they can to stop these persons efforts, by denying the existence of the problem.

    People have claimed dominion over the earth. If so, then WE the people” must take our share of the responsibility. We need to blame the “Person” and the “actions” instead of things, which are under the “control” of people, or ideas,that are neither evil, nor good in themselves, but are dependent upon the actions of people,

  9. Dizzy Lizzy says:

    I saw this and now I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.

    • As sad as this incident is, look at the public view on wepons in general. Ive always been a fir beliver that all school shpuld have at least one armed person on site  thereare many examples of how one civilian with a personal carry weapon has stopped a crime in its tracks and resolvd the issue before any inicents got
      hurt. However schools belive in the mantra that guns kill people. We all know a ggun is simply a tool in good hands it can save lives and evil hands it can take life away. One teacher carrying a firearm could have stopped this attacker cold. 

      • Ray Ake says:

        ISREAL has the right ideal,,all teacher’s are armed,,as well as the public,,this equal’s low crime and safety !! WHY can’t they see that in our country ??

        • CAM says:

          Israel gives their teachers guns to protect kids, we give our kids condoms for protection (not my line but one I read elsewhere). Our values are so out of order.

        • I visited Israel when I was a teenager. The market in Jerusalem had a crowds of shoppers out with their shoulder bags and guns. Men, women, didn’t matter. Guns are simply part of their daily items. No fears there about a person trying to shoot up the crowd. The schools in Israel used to have problems with school shootings. Then they armed their teachers and the first person trying to kill students was killed by the teachers. Problem solved, no more school shootings. A fully armed society can defend itself and the incidences of mass shootings disappear after the first few times that the public shoots back. Making more ‘gun-free zones’ and further restricting gun ownership will only create more incidents and will drive a legal market underground.

    • One lesson I would hope we preppers can learn from this is the importance of securing your firearms. We don’t know if she simply left them where he could get at them, or maybe he forced her to open a gun safe before he started, but regardless everyone should take a good look at their own security. A family member or a friend can reach their breaking points, and we don’t want our own means of protection used against us or any innocent people.

  10. Gayle says:

    It doesn’t matter to me if she was or was not “a prepper”, but what does bother me that she had a mentally ill son and she knew she did, and she kept guns. Folks, if you have a child with a mental illness, guns are never a good option for you. If you absolutely have to have one,keep it hid and keep it quiet. I would hope we all can agree that the mentally ill should not have access to weapons.

  11. they will take it and run with it….I heard this too.

  12. Who cares she didn’t commit the crime

  13. Jim Nagel says:

    Just more ammo for the media against us preppers.

  14. Dizzy Lizzy says:

    It’s a way to stereo type us further and to use this as a reason to do whatever they plan to do.

  15. They will demonize preppers as kooks as a result

  16. Every one in society is a “prepper” to one degree or another! They don’t buy just enough fuel for the daily commute or go to the grocery store to buy each meal at the time for that meal. Every home in our country has more that one flashlight in case the lights go out. So to hear a negative story or opinion of “preppers” makes me angry. They label them as “Doomsday preppers” for a total lack of knowledge. I see them as “hypocrite preppers” as they don’t see or admit that they are doing the same as everyone they look down on. They just are doing so on a different scale.

  17. Robert Fludd says:

    And what is that? That the killer was a prepper as well? o_0

  18. Things are gonna get ugly… They report it as if everyone who considers having a future no matter what is an evil being…

  19. Rob Bartlett says:

    It doesn’t matter whether she was a prepper or not. If she was a banker would that have made a difference? Clearly the killer was not sane, perhaps his mother is not sane either. It has nothing to do with the fact she was a prepper

  20. The only crime she commited was to not secure her weapons

  21. Dizzy Lizzy says:

    Cacprep I was just going to say the same thing .The news has just changed again and has turned her into a “Doomsday Prepper” http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/adam-lanzas-mother-was-an-avid-gun-collector.html

  22. it doesn’t matter if she was or not…the problem was the fact that she owned guns and didn’t secure them with trigger locks or a gun case. your guns, your keys, your responsibility.

  23. btw, i have a 26yo and would never leave guns unlocked or tell her where the keys are.

  24. take everything you read with a grain of salt. To someone who isn’t used to being around guns and/or is afraid of them….a “fortress” can be just a few guns. We don’t know how many the mother had or if/how she kept them locked up in her home. I made the mistake of listening to Geraldo Rivera last night. He kept trying to label the mother as a “survivalist” and said people who collect guns don’t collect the models of guns she had….that her’s were more suited to the military….really Geraldo…your gun ignorance is obvious. I too live in a wooded rural area with plenty of coyotes, fisher cats, and even mountain lions. I have a right to protect my animals and a .22 pistol or rifle isn’t going to do the job.

  25. James Bell says:

    I’m a father of a Austic Child and a Prepper. 2 sterotype being use against preppers and people with austism are not true. Its about a derange man done a very horrible crime. Look at all the crimes done by non preppers like streetgangs they stock up more weapons than anyone else

  26. We need to hold parents/doctors accountable for not locking these loons up… If I put a gun in front of a three year old or somebody with the same mentality… I’m pretty sure somebody is going to be hurt

  27. Amanda Godin says:

    I was waiting for this to happen. Now they will demonize not only gun owners but preppers as well. Why does everything have to be a platform for someone elses agenda? I got a splinter last week and I want all wood banned to protect others! This is retarded!! A horrible, horrible thing happens and as a parent I can’t even begin to imagine the pain of the victims families but to throw salt in their wounds by blaming it on gun laws and preppers is 100% rediculous! So what, she collected guns. It could’ve been hummel figurines or shoes. The focus should be the children and brave adults who lost their lives not this finger pointing bullshit! I pray for them and that they will find peace and that all those nutjob/finger pointers go on a duck hunt with ex-VP Cheney in the very near future.

    • susy b says:

      quite possible that someone in the group of people that lost babies, or others may also be preppers??? if they are maybe will come forth and put this theory to rest. who really knows????

  28. Sandy Smith says:

    My first thought was “Who cares if she was a prepper? She didn’t kill those children!”.

  29. great…. just like finding out the riffle was not in the school either, as it was later found in the car and not even used. But of course it was the first thing they mention. Survivalist, preppers, guns, riffles all in a negative light. Why can’t they stick with the one and only issue- the kid and his mental state. None of the above really mater, if the person is evil, his/her environment will not matter. Crazies come from the best and worst of surroundings plain and simple.

  30. Just finished reading the article. I take offense to making it seem that preppers are bad people and that we would go around shooting children. I am sure that if the mother had any idea her son was a killer she wouldnt have had guns in her home. This is just another way for the press to make preppers look crazy.

  31. Don’t let the media blind you with their label propaganda! I’ve listed to many different news sources and all of them have been full of BS more about their propaganda campaigne then the innocence of the lives lost and the pure evil that took it.

  32. OMG, the government will use this to stalk us and persecute us out of existence. *sigh*. Her only crime: not securing those guns! GET A GUN SAFE! :(

  33. I really liked this article and completely agree. I’ve seen hundreds of people saying it was the lack of god or an abundance of religious belief in or out of schools, or that his mother was probably to blame but you know I haven’t heard a lot of people place the blame solely on the shoulders of this shooter. Why do people feel the need to blame someone other than the attacker? There may have been contributing factors to his decision but the blame is still his. No matter what you view this act was evil plain and simple. It is going to cause more uproar about guns and gun violence. It may have some backlash on the prepper community as a whole because most people see shows like doomsday preppers and believe we are all like that. People will use this as a canonizing event to further their own agendas and beliefs.

  34. Tom Martin says:

    The APN is on top this story. If the media decides they want to talk about preppers in regards to this story, chances are many of them will come to us for interviews, and when they do, I’ll answer those interviews myself if need be. Preppers are about saving life.

  35. Tom Martin says:

    The APN is on top this story. If the media decides they want to talk about preppers in regards to this story, chances are many of them will come to us for interviews, and when they do, I’ll answer those interviews myself if need be. Preppers are about saving life.

  36. Hey guys the Coroner reported that the deaths were by .223 ammo. I think the rifle in the car theory has been put to bed unless I need to get the tinfoil hat back out of the closet.

  37. There is no god in there lives n the goverment removed itin schools duero liberals

  38. Lulu says:

    I have been thinking about this horrible tragedy and it is truly a societal problem, not a gun problem. When I was in high school (late 60’s), a lot of the boys had gun racks in their trucks with their rifles in them. Not only was no one ever shot, but school massacres were unheard of. My husband was in ROTC and they had M1 Garand rifles (true battle rifles) in the ROTC store room. Again, no mass murders at school. I don’t know what has changed in our society, but it not getting any better. It seems the mother absolutely knew her son had major problems beyond Aspergers Syndrome, yet she didn’t have her guns secured. A tragic mistake on her part, since not having those guns secured contributed to her own death. Do we need firearms to protect ourselves and our family, many people enjoy competion shooting and hunting as well. All done without hurting another soul. Will anything be accomplished by knee-jerk gun law legislation, I doubt it, it’s just a feel good measure to let their constituants feel their legislators are doing something about it. What they ought to be looking at is what the heck is wrong in our society that makes people do these heinous acts.

  39. one thing I think everyone within & outside the prepping community needs to take away from this horrific nightmare is, people snap, at some point this young man was mentally healthy not “evil” something at some point in his life & brain & heart was changed, possibly as in many, there were no warning signs of mental instability (we don’t know all the facts yet) this could possibly happen to anyone, that could have access to our guns, I think in honor of these lost lives, each of us should re evaluate how we have our guns secured, who has access to them and are we have the meaningful conversations on a regular basis with those people to get a gauge with where they are “mentally” in their personal journey in life ?? just food for thought

  40. I disagree some folks are just evil. You and I however can have a different opinion and not kill each other over it. That is what makes us sane and normal.

  41. can we agree that some just snap though & it would be a responsible & reasonable thing to do as a gun owner to consistently reevaluate our own ?

  42. Well, David I wasn’t trying to bring politics into this, as first off it’s against the group guidelines, but I as a LIBERAL LEFTY was only simply suggesting that every gun owner prepper or non prepper, should also try their best to consistently make certain as best as possible that those who could with or without permission access your guns, evaluate their mental state

  43. People can be mentally unstable/unhealthy in many different forms but it takes evil no matter your mental state to kill innocent people especially children.

  44. I disagree with politics being brought up here, after the posting of this article, as the article was not a political one. I also disagree that that this person or most mass murderers, are to the core EVIL, mental illness, rather it be temporary or not, does not qualify one for being evil.

  45. Well I don’t know what dictionaries or school everyone else went to but I was raised to know that evil is… morally reprehensible, sinful, wicked, bad character or conduct, impulsive or not. Anyone can be this, with or without a mental condition. This is me, does not mean you agree or even have to.

  46. David Carpentier, there are a whole lot of “lefties” in the world (and on this list) that love and own guns. Just as there are “righties” that think they should all be banned, my sister is one- Please stop throwing politics around, there’s a reason its against the group rules. The shooter was mentally ill and known to have breakdowns. His mom thought she could handle it on her own without medical help. It turned out she was wrong. This is info from MSNBC news.

  47. Either way, this did not have to turn political. Everything about this article is simply that we could see every point being made, as an attack on preppers and the like, which will or could affect us.

  48. Tom, do you not also agree that we as preppers, if we have guns, should also as responsible owners, have a consistent conversation on those around us with possible access to our guns, to evalute their mental stability ? I found the article very thought provoking & held great respect for those in this situation like the teachers who took survival skills learned to practice in the most honorable way.

  49. Tom Martin says:

    Your guns should be secure NO MATTER WHAT the mental state of people around you is. Personal responsibility. You should always assume that ANYONE might try to take your weapon

  50. KA Turner says:

    Was Victoria Soto an actual prepper or did you use that as a euphemism for her act of keeping the kids safe? I wish the Mail wouldn’t mock those of us who prepare for economic collapse. I won’t tell everyone what I have but I do not have the weapons Ms. Lanza had nor do I have a year’s worth of food. I do count myself as being prepared and never thought of shooting up a schoolhouse. The news account does indicate some parenting issues and excessive disclosure on the part of Ms. Lanza.

    • Tom Martin says:

      KA Turner, If you are asking if Victoria had food storage and all of the other typical things that preppers have, I don’t know. But the word prepper comes from “preparer” one who prepares. As it relates to disaster preparedness a prepper is one who prepares for disasters of any sort. This tragedy was a disaster that her students faced. By sacrificing herself to make the kids safe she sure qualified more as a prepper than most people would. I think any true prepper would do the same for children under their care.

  51. Kirk Gillman says:

    I was thinking about this same thing. I dont believe in greater gun removal from the public as making anything illegal has never worked, but I do believe those who are buying a gun should have them fully in their control and not giving access to those weapons to anyone around them unless they know they are mentally stable such as maybe having a registered gun safe with space for the weapons they own.

  52. Tom Martin says:

    This was emailed to us: Dear APN members,

    In response to the disrespectful thoughts of the small minded few. I personally have been
    prepping for years, not only for my wife and me but to help others in need in hard times ahead.
    I have put my flag to half staff, and prayed for the children and their families. Please forward this
    message, especially this fact. I am a member of the SHRINERS and have sponsored numerous
    handicapped children at no expense to their families. I strongly suggest these people walk
    through their homes until a mirror appears in front of them!

    Noble Dan Maple

  53. Jim Nagel says:

    I read the article Tom linked to. She was “a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.” There goes the media again trying to blame preppers and survivalists for what happened. Why doesn’t the media attack the Boy Scouts? Isn’t their motto “Be Prepared”? I’m not condemning the scouts, just the medias portrayal of preppers.

  54. Why be a survivalist or prepper if you think it’s the end of the world? lol

  55. If they are not going to include, end of the world …”As We Know It”, we are all better off with… emergency preparedness community.

  56. One slight quibble here, in the name of accuracy: The “Trench Coat Mafia” gave themselves that name. You really DO need to hold yourselves to a higher standard than the Reich Press Chamber does.

    • Tom Martin says:

      Ann. I did not say that the media made up that name. What I said is that they called them by that name. I also mentioned that they reported their real names and likenesses. That does not imply that they made up their real names and images up either.

      It is irrelevant to this article “who” came up with the name Trenchcoat Mafia. The point is whenever the media plasters the names and images of the murderers, would be copycats regard them as their heroes. Evil has their heroes too you know. They’re called villains, and when the media showcases them everywhere, in the mind of these murders they are being glorified. These murders become the idols of future attackers. They should never be named as anything other than words like murder, thug, attacker, killer, evil, and monster, and certainly they should never be mentioned by their real names or have their images posted everywhere unless there is an actual manhunt to find them.

  57. indyprepper says:

    Great Article.
    You could have given it just as relevent of a title such as “Did the shooters mother have car insurance?”

  58. Tom Martin says:

    Whether Nanzy was a prepper or not is completely irrelevant. She was also a mother, a human being, and a citizen of Connecticut and those are all irrelevant facts. The very act of having a smoke alarm and fire extinguisher in your house makes you a prepper. Preparing for a potential job loss, having home owners insurance or having a NOAA weather emergency radio prior to a storm also makes you a prepper so I do not see how being a prepper relates to this story.

    The purpose of this article was to point out the media’s attempt at trying to make a connection. So what if she is a prepper?

  59. Jim McClarin says:

    Just like illegal drugs are banned, and with the same effectiveness?  If we have a right to life it is axiomatic that we have a right to defend our life.  Banning guns would deny good people the means of defending their life against criminals who would ignore the gun ban.

    • jedi1111 says:

      What you failed to mention was that Adam Lansa’s mother took him to the shooting range for target practice.  You don’t do that when you know you have an anti social loner son who has significant mental problems and plays violent video games all day.  I place a big chunk of the blame on her.

  60. Jim McClarin says:

    Both sides in the present debate want to keep children and other innocents from being killed by evil crazy people, we just have diametrically opposite means of trying to achieve this.  One side believes that banning guns will result in fewer killings, the other believes that more guns in the hands of responsible adults will discourage violent crime.  To find which theory is correct there needs to be a thorough and dispassionate statistical analysis.

    • VetMike says:

      Two comments: studies such as you suggest are notoriously difficult as they are retrospective and there is no reliable way to determine the control group AND secondly a citizen carrying a legal handgun stopped the Oregon mall shooter and probably prevented a massacre there. I saw that only on Fox and Drudge. Interesting!

      • c_had38 says:

        Please, “vetmike”; post a link to the “info” you’re claiming. NOBODY that I know of is reporting that the Oregon shooter was stopped by a bystander w/ a legal firearm. To the contrary, I’ve heard/read from multiple sources that he started firing, cleared a jam, got the weapon functioning AGAIN, then WALKED downstairs and took HIS OWN life. If you’re right, PLEASE prove it, because there’s a hero out there not getting credit AND a MASSIVE media conspiracy afoot IF you and your “sources” are to be believed.

  61. Michael says:

    This administration condones the Killing of 3000 ( by Abortion ) each and every day – Their false concern makes me sick. Pray for our Nation and all affected by this tragedy.Israel arms their teachers and they don’t have these problems.

  62. VetMike says:

    The morning of the event, a well known news channel had an interview with a Psychiatrist. He stated that the evidence would show that there were many warning signs in this man’s behaviors before he finally exploded. The bald truth is that there are many others like Lanza in our society and it is impossible to predict what will set them off nor when it will happen. I worked as an Emergency Physician for over twenty years. It was almost impossible to hospitalize folks who were a danger. Usually we could get a 72 hour hold order but by the time they were seen by the court they had been on medication for three days and were released because they did not now present a danger. Then a few months later we would go through it all again. Why? Because “treat and street” is cheaper and the hand wringers insist that hospitalization violates their rights. Yet, no-one has yet devised a way to make sure that they take their medications and come in for counseling. We’ve all seen the disheveled guy at McD’s shuffling and attending to internal stimuli. We read about the loner who sits in his basement playing video games and does not interact with society. We hear the violent lyrics to today’s music but ignore them as it would be a violation of the First Amendment to suppress them. We are afraid to discuss the relationship between violent games, movies and music and behaviors such as school shootings. Yet no-one is letting the world know that the guy who runs the biggest video game company will not let HIS children play those games or that many musicians will not let THEIR children listen to their music. That speaks volumes if we care to listen. Until we determine to speak to the root causes of these types of crimes we will never come to grips with them. Confiscating guns, jailing preppers or moving everyone into compounds cf Agenda 21 will not solve this.       

  63. c_had38 says:

    It is NOT irrelevant that she was a prepper. They say her son was a loner, who was fascinated w/ guns and spent most of his time holed up in his basement “bunker”. Stop me when this starts to sound familar. Clearly he was sick, but let’s not pretend that these behaviors aren’t hallmarks of survivalist/prepper personality. When someone becomes that evil, it doesn’t matter what caused it, they must be destroyed or otherwise removed from society. His mother may well have been a wonderful person, and certainly no one deserves what happened to her. But, if her son did show signs of mental illness, that doesn’t mitigate the role her lifestyle and/or philosophy played in his descent into madness, it calls it into question even more… does ANYONE think it’s wise to train the mentally ill to be proficient w/ firearms or to fill their heads w/ stories of the coming economic collapse and the chaos & lawlessness that will ensue? Anyone? Didn’t think so. God bless ALL the victims & may they rest in peace.

    • Tom Martin says:

      quote: “It is NOT irrelevant that she was a prepper”…..”hallmarks of survivalist/prepper community”…..

      Your statements based upon your narrow view of what a prepper is as has been perpetuated and recycled in a biased media based on a Hollywood sensationalized stereotype of what a prepper really is.

      I know thousands of preppers, many of whom don’t even own a gun, and of those that do, they are responsible gun owners.

      I don’t know a single “real” prepper who lives their lives as portrayed on shows like Doomsday preppers. That show goes out of their way to screen for the most extreme type of prepper and even then they go further out of their way to have the participants stage ridiculous situations that they would probably never do in real life, then the show is even further edited to make them appear even more extreme and far out. Then, compound that with a media with a biased agenda. Don’t tell me the media doesn’t have a biased agenda because I personally have turned down dozens of reporters and journalists who only wanted to talk to preppers with lots of guns or who were prepping for doomsday. When I told the journalists that I didnt know anyone like that but that I could put them in touch with some real preppers, they either weren’t interested or they insisted on me finding someone who fit what they were looking for. They were leaving no stone unturned seeking out the most extreme preppers that they could find to interview.

      Don’t believe what you see on TV or read in the paper. If this is what your stereotype vision of what a prepper is, then you really need to do more research.

  64. Since everyone has very strong opinions about this event, I would like to add mine.  Here is a story from a Mom who son struggles with similar issues.  I think her story is a MUST READ for everyone  especially law makers and those who have the capacity to change laws, and help those who suffer with mental illness:
     
    Written by Liza Long, republished from The Blue Review
     
    Friday’s horrific national tragedy — the murder of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut — has ignited a new discussion on violence in America. In kitchens and coffee shops across the country, we tearfully debate the many faces of violence in America: gun culture, media violence, lack of mental health services, overt and covert wars abroad, religion, politics and the way we raise our children. Liza Long, a writer based in Boise, says it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.
    While every family’s story of mental illness is different, and we may never know the whole of the Lanza’s story, tales like this one need to be heard — and families who live them deserve our help.
    Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants.
    “I can wear these pants,” he said, his tone increasingly belligerent, the black-hole pupils of his eyes swallowing the blue irises.
    “They are navy blue,” I told him. “Your school’s dress code says black or khaki pants only.”
    “They told me I could wear these,” he insisted. “You’re a stupid bitch. I can wear whatever pants I want to. This is America. I have rights!”
    “You can’t wear whatever pants you want to,” I said, my tone affable, reasonable. “And you definitely cannot call me a stupid bitch. You’re grounded from electronics for the rest of the day. Now get in the car, and I will take you to school.”
    I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.
    A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan — they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.
    That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.
    We still don’t know what’s wrong with Michael. Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant or Intermittent Explosive Disorder have all been tossed around at various meetings with probation officers and social workers and counselors and teachers and school administrators. He’s been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood altering pharmaceuticals, a Russian novel of behavioral plans. Nothing seems to work.
    At the start of seventh grade, Michael was accepted to an accelerated program for highly gifted math and science students. His IQ is off the charts. When he’s in a good mood, he will gladly bend your ear on subjects ranging from Greek mythology to the differences between Einsteinian and Newtonian physics to Doctor Who. He’s in a good mood most of the time. But when he’s not, watch out. And it’s impossible to predict what will set him off.
    Several weeks into his new junior high school, Michael began exhibiting increasingly odd and threatening behaviors at school. We decided to transfer him to the district’s most restrictive behavioral program, a contained school environment where children who can’t function in normal classrooms can access their right to free public babysitting from 7:30-1:50 Monday through Friday until they turn 18.
    The morning of the pants incident, Michael continued to argue with me on the drive. He would occasionally apologize and seem remorseful. Right before we turned into his school parking lot, he said, “Look, Mom, I’m really sorry. Can I have video games back today?”
    “No way,” I told him. “You cannot act the way you acted this morning and think you can get your electronic privileges back that quickly.”
    His face turned cold, and his eyes were full of calculated rage. “Then I’m going to kill myself,” he said. “I’m going to jump out of this car right now and kill myself.”
    That was it. After the knife incident, I told him that if he ever said those words again, I would take him straight to the mental hospital, no ifs, ands, or buts. I did not respond, except to pull the car into the opposite lane, turning left instead of right.
    “Where are you taking me?” he said, suddenly worried. “Where are we going?”
    “You know where we are going,” I replied.
    “No! You can’t do that to me! You’re sending me to hell! You’re sending me straight to hell!”
    I pulled up in front of the hospital, frantically waiving for one of the clinicians who happened to be standing outside. “Call the police,” I said. “Hurry.”
    Michael was in a full-blown fit by then, screaming and hitting. I hugged him close so he couldn’t escape from the car. He bit me several times and repeatedly jabbed his elbows into my rib cage. I’m still stronger than he is, but I won’t be for much longer.
    The police came quickly and carried my son screaming and kicking into the bowels of the hospital. I started to shake, and tears filled my eyes as I filled out the paperwork — “Were there any difficulties with… at what age did your child… were there any problems with.. has your child ever experienced.. does your child have…”
    At least we have health insurance now. I recently accepted a position with a local college, giving up my freelance career because when you have a kid like this, you need benefits. You’ll do anything for benefits. No individual insurance plan will cover this kind of thing.
    For days, my son insisted that I was lying — that I made the whole thing up so that I could get rid of him. The first day, when I called to check up on him, he said, “I hate you. And I’m going to get my revenge as soon as I get out of here.”
    By day three, he was my calm, sweet boy again, all apologies and promises to get better. I’ve heard those promises for years. I don’t believe them anymore.
    On the intake form, under the question, “What are your expectations for treatment?” I wrote, “I need help.”
    And I do. This problem is too big for me to handle on my own. Sometimes there are no good options. So you just pray for grace and trust that in hindsight, it will all make sense.
    I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.
    According to Mother Jones, since 1982, 61 mass murders involving firearms have occurred throughout the country. Of these, 43 of the killers were white males, and only one was a woman. Mother Jones focused on whether the killers obtained their guns legally (most did). But this highly visible sign of mental illness should lead us to consider how many people in the U.S. live in fear, like I do.
    When I asked my son’s social worker about my options, he said that the only thing I could do was to get Michael charged with a crime. “If he’s back in the system, they’ll create a paper trail,” he said. “That’s the only way you’re ever going to get anything done. No one will pay attention to you unless you’ve got charges.”
    I don’t believe my son belongs in jail. The chaotic environment exacerbates Michael’s sensitivity to sensory stimuli and doesn’t deal with the underlying pathology. But it seems like the United States is using prison as the solution of choice for mentally ill people. According to Human Rights Watch, the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons quadrupled from 2000 to 2006, and it continues to rise — in fact, the rate of inmate mental illness is five times greater (56 percent) than in the non-incarcerated population.
    With state-run treatment centers and hospitals shuttered, prison is now the last resort for the mentally ill — Rikers Island, the LA County Jail and Cook County Jail in Illinois housed the nation’s largest treatment centers in 2011.
    No one wants to send a 13-year old genius who loves Harry Potter and his snuggle animal collection to jail. But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options. Then another tortured soul shoots up a fast food restaurant. A mall. A kindergarten classroom. And we wring our hands and say, “Something must be done.”
    I agree that something must be done. It’s time for a meaningful, nation-wide conversation about mental health. That’s the only way our nation can ever truly heal.
    God help me. God help Michael. God help us all.
    This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. 
    ~Elmer Davis
               



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